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"Sex offender" -> "rapist" in the lead

Can we change the title of "sex offender", in the lead, to "rapist" or "serial rapist"? It's less vague and describes more precisely the crimes other than murder that he was convicted for. I don't see that many sources predominantly describing him as a "sex offender". Badbluebus (talk) 02:08, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article describes what he was convicted for. He was a convicted sex offender in a 1989 trial. He was never tried and convicted for rape. CJC-DI (talk) 08:58, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jeffrey Dahmer: Uncovering The Case For Innocence. ISBN 1917525036

New book exposes the truth about this decades-old story. Penned by a former police officer turned expert fraud investigator, the author applies his unparalleled skills in uncovering deception to the Dahmer story. Focussing on forensic analysis, psychological profiling, and media scrutiny, the author uncovers new insights that challenge conventional wisdom and the narrative perpetuated by mainstream media about this killer of seventeen young men and boys.

Far from yet another exploration of Jeffrey Dahmer—the author delivers an investigation into the story behind the story and invites readers to confront the complexities of the case. Was everything as clear-cut as we were led to believe, or does a deeper, untold version of events exist? SEEIT750 (talk) 15:10, 2 February 2025 (UTC) — SEEIT750 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Apparently by R.J. Sykes, a former police officer turned expert fraud investigator and published in December 2024. Is it any good? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:09, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes its well worth a read, its had some good reviews already. It's over 550 pages, so lots to read and its all cited, fully referenced. SEEIT750 (talk) 16:41, 2 February 2025 (UTC)— SEEIT750 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

You might want to add links to those reviews here, to support any mention of the book in the article. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure - they can be found on Amazon and NetGalley, but here's the links:

Jeffrey Dahmer: Uncovering the Case for Innocence eBook : Sykes, R.J.: Amazon.co.uk: Kindle Store

Jeffrey Dahmer | R. J. Sykes | 9781917525039 | NetGalley SEEIT750 (talk) 21:03, 2 February 2025 (UTC)— SEEIT750 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

There's also on Goodreads: Jeffrey Dahmer - Uncovering the Case for Innocence by RJ Sykes | Goodreads SEEIT750 (talk) 23:42, 2 February 2025 (UTC)— SEEIT750 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Any professional reviews in WP:RS sources? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:52, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - it's not on Wiki yet as its still early days, it's only been published in the past few weeks. But NetGalley is an industry platform open to the media, and it's also also the public, for those who want to review books and advocate literacy. Not sure if the reviews on there have been left by journalists. The publisher itself is reputable, which is always a positive sign and adds credibility, since they put their name to it. In time, as it gains more attention, there will be more reviews also, so it can be added to Wikipedia. SEEIT750 (talk) 14:22, 3 February 2025 (UTC)— SEEIT750 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

The publisher is Shieldcrest Publishing, of which I have had no prior knowledge. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:26, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I checked them out, they are the top UK indie publisher and part of the traditional publishing house Pressman House. SEEIT750 (talk) 17:20, 3 February 2025 (UTC)— SEEIT750 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Hi, SEEIT750! Please remember that Wikipedia is not a forum. That is, all on-wiki discussion should be focused on improving the Wikipedia. At present, this post reads like an advertisement for a book related to this subject, which is not acceptable. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 21:47, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

No problem. Just a critical researcher who likes to check the sources as we have to be careful what we consume. SEEIT750 (talk) 14:01, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

None of those three (Amazon, Goodreads or NetGalley) is a reliable source, least of all Amazon. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:50, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer to look up the direct sources for given information, in books or otherwise, such as bibliographies, citations etc. SEEIT750 (talk) 14:03, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite sure what you mean by that. If this book is (eventually) regarded as reliable, it could be added as "Further reading" or could be used as a direct source for any material missing from the article? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:12, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, of course that is also a consideration. I read and review books, and if they are classed as factual, I like to check where the facts are sourced from. SEEIT750 (talk) 20:18, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The fourth paragraph under the Intermediate Murders section begins: "On April 23, Dahmer lured Ronald Flowers Jr. to his house; however, after giving Flowers a drugged coffee, both he and Flowers heard Dahmer's grandmother call, "Is that you, Jeff?"[132] "

The date is actually April 2, 1988 as stated in Flowers's testimony in the trial, recording here: COURT TV (Director). (2022, September 21). WI v. Jeffrey Dahmer (1992): Dr. Olson & Victim Ronald Flowers Jr. [Video recording]. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MyRF-lnMMo

Change "On April 23, Dahmer lured Ronald Flowers Jr..." to "On April 2, Dahmer lured Ronald Flowers Jr." Vthokieche (talk) 23:06, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done. That is an error in Joel Norris's book (p. 155). Thanks for spotting.--Kieronoldham (talk) 04:00, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lead edits

User:Kieronoldham, are there any elements of my edits in Special:Diff/1279814749/1280137853 which you view as improvements? I think the information on his childhood, the expanded information on his MO, and the clarification on the Ohio murder in 1978 vs. his later murders starting in 1987 are helpful. — Goszei (talk) 19:49, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. Lede needs to be condensed. Much of what you added ("born in Wisconsin" etc.) is in the article text.--Kieronoldham (talk) 19:59, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]